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Wed Feb 27 2019 15:29:59

eBay Sellers Have Questions and Objections to GTC Mandate

By: Ina Steiner

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Sellers are skeptical about eBay's decision to make all fixed-price listings "Good Til Cancelled" with a 30-day automatic renewal. And let's face it, many people detest recurring billing, whether it's a gym membership or an item they thought was a free trial or one-time purchase.

Starting in mid-March 2019, the listing duration for all new fixed price listings on eBay will be Good 'Til Cancelled (GTC). The only way to list on eBay without it will be auctions.

That is a huge change on three fronts:

1) eBay is eliminating duration options - currently sellers can run fixed-price listings with a duration of 1, 3, 5, 7, 10, or 30 days, with 30-day GTC an option. Eliminating shorter durations is a problem for sellers who want to convey a greater sense of urgency or have a limited time frame in which to sell an item.

2) eBay is requiring GTC auto renewals for all listings with the exception of auctions. Repeat, auto-renewals. That can lead to stale listings, some sellers say, and may make it difficult to manage thousands of listings.

3) Recurring billing on all fixed-price listings. Repeat, recurring billing. Sellers who don't pay attention could end up paying fees for listings they don't want.

In addition to worrying about paying fees for listings they don't wish to renew, some sellers who rotate listings to stay under their free-listings allowance say they'll be forced to pay more in fees (or else make less inventory available for sale on eBay).

Sellers turned to eBay and industry boards and listed many reasons why the GTC mandate doesn't work for them. Products with an expiration date was just one.

We also saw many questions, including those that touched on the following topics:

- Will GTC listings get greater visibility in eBay search results every 30 days? (Many sellers believe listings currently get a boost in visibility when they are about to expire, or when they are newly listed.)

- Will GTC provide better SEO (visibility on search engines such as Google)? And if so, how?

- If sellers cancel GTC listings prior to the 30-day renewal, will they be penalized - ie, in terms of seller performance metrics? (And will eBay put that in writing?)

- Do GTC listings count towards sellers' monthly zero-insertion fee listings? (Note: The eBay announcement states: "Good 'Til Cancelled listings renew automatically every 30 days unless your item sells before that timeframe. We charge an insertion fee every 30-day period. Good 'Til Cancelled listings count toward your monthly zero insertion fee listings. Fee amounts are based on the terms in effect when the listing goes live and when it renews.")

- How will sellers who rotate listings to keep listing fees down manage?

eBay manager Brian Burke had some suggestions for sellers worried about the change. Responding to seller concerns on the eBay discussion boards, he wrote on this post:

In the use case where you have more than 250 items that you list every month, you have some options:

- Only list 250
- End some early to rotate other listings (this is in your control - though we do not recommend it since listing items is time consuming and removing listings means buyers cannot see them)
- Upgrade your store subscription level
- Incur the insertion fee cost for those listings above your threshold (in the example above 250 listings)

That response didn't do anything to quell accusations lobbed at eBay that the move was a grab for more money from sellers struggling on a marketplace that is experiencing troubling growth.

In one sense, there's no upside to the GTC mandate, since sellers who wished to use it already had the option to if they found it beneficial. 

eBay is hosting a chat session today at 1 pm Pacific (4 pm Eastern), please post any questions there that you have about eBay's move to GTC auto-renewals or about any of the other changes eBay announced on Tuesday as part of the Early Seller Update for 2019.

Update 3/4/19: Be sure to read Sunday's news article, "eBay Execs Unprepared for GTC Double Billing Problem."

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This user has validated their user name. by: Lightning

Thu Feb 28 15:52:01 2019

@Toolguy
Sounds like a good plan.  You could also add Best Offer to the auction and state that the only offer you will accept is for the minimum bid.  That way the buyer (and you) won't have to wait until the end of the auction to get things moving.  For those who don't read the ''instructions'', you can have Best Offer set to auto-decline any offers lower than the starting bid, and auto-accept at the starting bid or above.  That speeds things along, too.

Alternatively, you could also ask the bidder to contact you when they make the minimum bid, and you will end the listing at that price.  Always an option to do that.  Or did they just change it while I was typing?  That eBay is quick to change the rules!

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This user has validated their user name. by: RKTOYS

Thu Feb 28 18:23:12 2019

@cfrphoto
I just wanted to say how great it is to hear from another SQL Server fan.  Who needs low quality shovelware from phony "technology companies" when you can do it better yourself?

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Fri Mar 1 06:50:55 2019

notfunanymore says "Everyone! The party’s over. You should start considering you’re next move. "

Done that already and I'm so much better off.  I'm selling on four other sites, and the sales from just two of those sites are knocking it out of the park.  So glad I'm not dependent on the cesspool any longer.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Fri Mar 1 06:56:13 2019

"the bot generated a warning and a demerit to my account:

I end listings early all the time. The bot can do as it pleases.  I'm not dealing with this nonsense on the other sites that I sell.   Bots--the enemy of the people.

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by: mcposty This user has validated their user name.

Fri Mar 1 11:53:20 2019

There is an important issue that GTC will cause that has bee n overlooked I think,

Sometimes, when relisting, Ebay will "glitch" and try to charge you either a listing fee when it shouldn't or charge you 1.00 for gallery plus when it shouldn't.
Normally, this is easy to catch because when you relist an item, it tells you the cost of fees, and if its not 0.00, then I can just fix the issue or remove the item from the relist and the charge goes away.

With GTC, you won't be able to catch these until they already go live, then you have to scour your bill and call ebay to remove these charges! Ebay knows this "glitch" is there and already said they will not automatically refund these errors, that sellers have to all in to get them refunded or removed.

I will now have to call Ebay EVERY MONTH to get these "glitch" charges credited back. What a headache


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by: Silver Ice King This user has validated their user name.

Sat Mar 2 02:40:32 2019

I read Harry Temkins damage control statement and started laughing as it has the same old Ebay weasel speak in it trying to explain how everything is better for Sellers with this change that Ebay suddenly wants to make.  I also decided to check out this newest hire of Wenigs to see how he handles all of the suggested policies that Ebay has in place for the rest of us.

Free Shipping - Nope - he charges for shipping
Free Returns - Nope - does not accept returns period (cant wait until he gets his first SNAD and has to deal with those issues.
Using GTC - appears that he is but not sure since no dates are listed
Using Managed Payments - Yes (sure he had no choice in this one...lol)
Seller Name:  ghammat44

It will be interesting to see if he bows to the pressure from comments in here like Kupbens finally did on his listings.  

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by: JohnQ This user has validated their user name.

Wed Mar 20 10:24:13 2019

Manually ending listings is not the same as having them end automatically after 7 or 10 days.  Buyers do not see the "Ending Soon" message and listings that are ending soon wont get a bump in visibility- sort by ending soonest.  

Ebay has apparently closed the message boards about this because the objections were so fierce.

I am going to start by lowering my store level - I won't need so many free listing since I won't be relisting every 7 days and I am going to make sure they don't get any extra money by double billing me for 2 30 day listings in the same month - even if it means I don't have hundreds of items not listed for a week.

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by: JohnQ This user has validated their user name.

Wed Mar 20 10:27:14 2019

Sounds like another ebay strategy to lower revenue.

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